006- Interview with Alex and Beth

A little longer episode this week, but oh is it worth it!

We are super excited about the episode this week. Alex and Beth join us to talk about their journey into no home based pet sitting, their philosophy of caring for someone’s home, and why the phrase “bubbles and nuts” perfectly describes life as a pet sitter.

Long ago, Beth's first cat, Winnie, chased poodles out of the backyard. Alex's first hamster peed on his head. They have been petsitting full-time since September, 2017, though they truly began petsitting in mid-2010. Today, they have taken car of pets and homes reliably in SF, Hawaii, Boston, Half-Moon Bay, Marin, East Bay and the Peninsula for multiple sits multiple times.

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I'm Collin. And I'm Megan. And this is Pastor confessional an open and honest discussion about life as a pet sitter. On this week's episode, I sit down with Beth and Alex, two amazing people who have been on quite a journey with their pet sitting business over the last several years. We cover way too many topics to for me to give a simple introduction to this. So I'm just going to leave you with the phrase, bubbles and nuts. I hope you guys enjoy.

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Hello. Hello, icon. Alex, are you great? That's here. Hi there. Hi. We're excited to get to connect with you tonight. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I've been looking forward to this

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And just hearing about you guys and learning from you about all that you've done to

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it's it's been a it's been an adventure for sure. Yeah.

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Cool. Tell me about how you guys got started in, in in pet sitting and what it's been like all this time. So we've been married for a little bit over 11 years together for 15 We met in Boston. And but that point Beth had already done pet sitting at different times in our life. I had grown up

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at different times with some cats and that was always an allergic and my dad and in Texas had had horses I was highly allergic. So is not something I ever thought we were going to do. And a few things came together at the end of 2017 Actually, today is our second second year anniversary of my dad passing when we were in Florida at the time, and it was right about the time we said

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What Where are we going next? You know, we've been here in Florida for a while helping my parents, where we going next? We knew we didn't want to settle. We didn't want to,

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you know, lease and furnish. We knew we wanted to spend time with animals. We had done a number of side pet settings over the years. And we discovered petting Beth as she discovered it.

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remember who it was? Yeah, I actually found somebody on YouTube. And I started following her. And then I started having conversations with her privately. And she told me about this website. And I would often watch videos of her with dogs and cats. And so I said, Okay, well, I'm going to look into the website, and I told Alex about it. And I had already been doing pet sitting for friends and family. And I mean, we would travel for it. We went to Hawaii to cut it. We went to Boston depends said, Oh, wow. Yeah. And it was always a really great like, I mean, you know, we've both

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love animals. Alex loves animals but was always allergic.

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So, you know, luckily Claritin is available.

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Yeah. So, so So we started,

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pet sitting pretty much full time at the end of 2017. I started taking allergy medications and it was a miracle and the cats and the dogs, I was no problem. And I was able to start really getting to know them. And it was fascinating. And we said, basically, we're going to keep doing this as long as it makes sense. As long as it's easy. And it has now been two years of full time. No home base that's sitting. Yes. worked out better than we could have ever imagined. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, tell me a little bit more about having no home based pet sitting and and how that's worked out for you guys. Well, fortunately, we had already been practicing living lightly when we moved from California to hold

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We we got rid of and sold everything. When we left Hawaii for Florida, we got rid of a few more things. Went from Florida to Boston and started pet sitting. We were we had one small suitcase each and a backpack. I was actually a bit worried because we lived in Boston for eight years. Beth is from Boston. I didn't want to go back to the winners and I didn't want to get all close, you know, to the backup for all that. Yeah. So it was sort of like playing Batman in a sense, like we got just the rank stuff to to be super optimized in the cold.

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We traveled super light and then realized,

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hey, we also have food to deal with and sometimes we have a little bit of food left over after a set. So now we were carrying one or two small Trader Joe's bags around. And after a while, we realize we were buying so much water so much filtered water.

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places and then walking them to the homes. One day I realized, let's get our own small filter.

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So we started realizing we need to take a few little things with us like

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filters and a few, you know, a small mobile pantry, but we basically live super light ready to go at a moment's notice.

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Able to pack up real quick and settle in really quickly and just focused on the animals and what they needed and what the home needed. And I think at first, you know, we were a little bit nervous on Okay, we we completely 100% are remote and, you know, rely on pet sitting for where we're going to stay. And

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at first it was sort of like, oh, how's that going to work? And then, I don't know, just magically, I mean, it just fills itself in. We started getting repeat business all the time. And because there's two of

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If there's a day or two overlap, that's really super easy because he starts one eye on the other and it's just there too. And it's just it's it's since then it's just never been an issue. It's never been a problem. It just always something. Yeah, that's great. Did you guys have each other to tag team to meet those needs of your clients? Is that a strength you see that you have compared to other sitters? Well, I can't imagine doing exactly what we're doing. If someone was alone, just because I can't really get one set to line up with the next show when we overlap. works out if we have a few days a gap, but we do an Airbnb or a hotel. It works out. So the partnership really, really smooth things out. And I think if you're single you can do it is just, it's easier to do a gap than an overlap. So I think you need to if you will,

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You're single person doing it, it's just you need to make a choice because you don't ever want to overcommit and leave a pet that that needs care. You know, that's our number one concern is make sure that make sure that the pets are cared for and the owners are happy, right? And so, kind of along those same lines, as you've juggling all these things going on, what's kind of been you've touched on this a little bit as far as making the adjustments to this, but what's kind of been the hardest part about continuing to do this over the over time. At first there was some fear, are we gonna find something in time? I remember there was actually, when we first started, we were probably three or four sets in and we were in Boston, and we didn't have a place lined up yet. And the day kept getting closer and closer and we were really, really nervous. And then something came through literally the day before. For the next day. Oh my gosh.

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So this this this sense of like, we can't plan it, we're not in control. That was for both of us a lot of things it at the beginning. And we really learned to trust over time. The The second thing I think, though it was challenging, it was trying unconditioned ourselves that the right way to live is this traditional way of having a home and having a home base and all these sort of false like we project we need a home or home base to feel secure and safe. And we shifted that over time took a while, but we really shifted that to well, no home is where we are home is everywhere. And Home is where I am. And so that that also started to create a lot more trust a lot more creativity and reduced, reduce the fears. And it's really cool. How can pet sitting came in here and went along tandem with some of these other things. You guys were

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Working through and realizing that weren't necessarily that something related but we're just more lifestyle like and this was really able to come and help you guys in and and work well with that. Absolutely and some of the challenges early on with with the animals themselves or just what is it like to get to know them quickly and understand their needs. There There was one dog that we didn't expect any trouble we'd never expect any trouble with in any of the animals. And the owners just had a you know, really good expectation. Well, when we got there and owners left the dog I'm very very frightened. I'm just super anxious. She's a pretty small she's a rescue, rescue and bustle, right? She's a little little nervous disposition anyway. And what happened was for three, almost two, almost three days, she would not let us put a leash on so we couldn't take her out. Oh man. So I started

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I work from home Beth tends to go somewhere for work. And so I started watching some YouTube videos how do you deal with us and

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we spent

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I spent hours for a couple days going to Whole Foods getting great roasted chicken. And then bribing the heck out of this dog

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inoculating hurts me and to the leash

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when I'm spending a few weeks at without without dog, and now every time we go back because we get lots of callbacks. This dog remembers us which binds to the owners and she's so sweet. We are so in love with her favorite. And that's so great. You guys started off kind of on such rocky terms and to have put in all that effort to see it pay off on the back end. That's really awesome. Story. Yeah.

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So that's one of the good experiences, you know, it's not always fuzzy out there. And if you had any stuff that's kind of gone sour on while you've been pet sitting

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I, you know, I, I think the very, very first time and this actually, I've never winded we've ever had a bad experience overall with a with an animal, you know, besides, you know, in the very beginning I mean they're scared and rightly so right Who are you people? Oh, you know making them comfortable as our number one priority but the one bad experience I had was when I didn't do my homework. That was my very first pet set. And Alex was still in Florida and I was in Boston. And

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I quickly did an interview over the phone and

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with and and so I went there the next day, it was sort of an emergency situation. So I had just agreed to it before because normally I like to at least do a zoom or meet them or something. And it was the dirtiest place I've ever seen in my life. Oh no, it was it was I'm sorry, but it was so dirty. That

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I went out and I bought sheets, and I just slept on top of what I bought. And that was a good learning lesson to to, you know, not only are they interviewing you, but you also need to be comfortable and interview them.

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And I would say that was probably the one bad that I've had. Yeah, that that interview processes, you don't think about it that, you know, you have the power to say yes or no to clients. And at first I know for for Megan and I, we felt like we had to say yes to everybody who walked through the door, regardless of how dirty it turned out, or how little they were willing to pay in overtime, kind of becoming more empowered to say, you know what, I don't have to take that that's a you know, but that's a learning lesson that I think we all have to go through over time. So I'm kind of interested in understanding a little bit about the mechanics of how you guys go about finding clients and working through those those meet and greets and going through that procedure. So could you kind of walk through how all that

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takes place. You know we we've done it a couple of ways. We're part of the part of an online community called trusted house sitters. And it's International. And actually that lady that I befriended on YouTube, she introduced me to that, and it's been a very good experience. The second way is that

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people that we meet, request us.

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I've actually a couple of people that I work with now of saying, Oh, can you come and sit for us and it's worked out really well. And then the third way is that we get a lot of repeat business. We've probably done about 90 something sets in the past two years, and I would say a third of those are repeat. Wow, that's great. that's a that's a huge retention for with clients. Now we have

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everything we have 30 something reviews on the site, and every single one of them is a five star review.

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And we do everything in our power to make sure that it's like, Hey, this is our goal to to to provide you with the best service possible. What can we do to make that happen? and knock on wood? So far we've been able to obtain that. That's really great. That's really stellar to have that many reviews and have it be like that. So what does that look like when you're in someone's home? You know, a lot of times when I tell people that we we house it, or we, you know, we travel and do that kind of stuff to take care of pets. A lot of people just kind of envision us sitting around the house, eating the person's food and watching TV with the dog. But you know, how do you What's that experience like to to be in someone else's home watching their dog? It's a privilege.

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It's so I contrast it with going to a hotel. So you go to a hotel, and it's sort of like, hey, look at this cool space that we get to be in.

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We have to take advantage of Look what they've made with the place when we come into a home.

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Uh, it's it's more like, it's more like, how can we honor this place is like what does this place want? I'm very much interested in, say, what what does this place have to offer? How does it fit the animal? And so one of the first things we do is just make sure like we're okay with it. Here's a first check, check the sponge in

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the kitchen. I mean, don't even look around. But if you go because you can. We do we are both of us a bit of clean free. So sometimes a place will look clean and tidy. And then a couple days in, it's like, oh, wait a minute. Oh, hold on. So I've definitely done my share of cleaning in first couple days. But you go and you check the sponge, and that'll tell you a whole lot about the entire house. Our main goal is to honor the honor the people honor the animal know that were there.

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It's actually the animals house it's not us they're watching the animal you know how can we make the cat the dog the bird the reptile you know feel like okay I'm safe I'm in good hands let me have fun while my people on location and then do the best that we can to to leave the place and the dog or the cat or whatever in a better place than when we got there it's always fascinating to find out where it where's the animal like the sleep Where are the toys where where's the food? Not just for logistical reasons but like where's where's this animal like to be? And and how and how can we quickly start having an easy time with the animal while honoring the rules of the owners right because

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we've gotten lied to the dog does not belong on the couch but we've gotten oh

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oh yes ya know this. Yeah, she never choose on anything at all or

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Yeah, I know that I like I love that idea of remembering to honor the house honor the surroundings. For me, it's always been as soon as you start seeing the pictures of the family that lives there, or those, those things that that start popping out, it's like, yeah, I'm the visitor here. And this person has placed a massive amount of trust and responsibility on my shoulders that I have to make sure that I live up to that. Because this is this is not just a fly by the seat of your pants kind of thing. It's, it's it is honoring and respecting what is around you. You know, and just, I think the rule of thumb for us is that whether there's a camera or not, we always like to act as if there if there is, and what I mean by that is, you know, don't do anything that you wouldn't want on camera ever. That helps. Keep yourself in check. Like, like, make sure you're doing everything possible to make the house feel honored. Yeah, and I know the whole camera thing.

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is a really it's a hot topic among pet sitters, whether some people will will not accept a client if they have cameras in the house because they they're kind of weirded out by that. But I know that can go both ways of if I was having someone in my house, sometimes I'm like, well, it might be nice to make sure they're doing what they're doing. But I like the idea of just always having the idea in the, in your, in the back of your brain that whether I'm watched or not, it's about respecting that place and making sure you're being professional and all that you do. Yeah. And and, you know, we've been involved we've been in places with cameras and without generally we know when there is a camera.

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You know, just because we're sort of now in the house. So if we take a shower, we want to make sure we're not walking around in a towel.

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But I remember one time we were sitting on a couch together and we were with a dog, and we knew there was a camera but we didn't expect the people to come on the camera and start talking

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You can you can enjoy the bigger couch if you want and what

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that's terrifying.

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But for the most part anytime someone's had a camera they'd let us know and they said go ahead and turn it off. We've never had an issue.

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You guys have had such a wide variety of experiences. At this point, what's something that you wish you would have known back in 2017 when you started doing this, you know, really, really going after it for me it would be not to get so worried about timing because it just works out and if you have a day or two or even a week, you know, there's always Airbnb so just don't get so stressed out about it. That's just logistical. I completely agree with that. And, and one of my favorite besides having a

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Water Filter that you can carry around with you. Like a little Britta.

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The thing that's making me smile is Lyft and Uber, Uber, but for the first almost the entire, almost the entire time in Boston, which was

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seven or eight months before we move back to California. So for months,

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I was the one that would often move our stuff while Beth was at an office.

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And I there was, especially with with the Harvard Square, there were times I was wheeling too small suitcases and one backpack and that's what have her backpack. I was willing them through snow and slush a mile, no, to the train, etc. And it was months before it clicked on me. I can get a lift.

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And that was like oh my god, this is a miracle. So now

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Yeah, I mean, moving from place to place now it's such a breeze. Yeah.

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You know, it's, it's always great to have a zoom with the, with the people beforehand. You know, with a dog we do we 99% of the time, if we can meet the dog beforehand we do.

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I think only once we didn't. Um, but I mean cats are easier, right? But um, you know, we just try to to, if it's possible for the dog to meet the dog beforehand, just so the dog is comfortable. Yeah, and make sure you're comfortable with the dog to look looking for any sort of those weird ticks or behaviors or, you know, tells that the dog may have that it's not, you know, might not be okay to do to do that in line with that, too, is as you think back over these experiences, and I'm curious if you've seen or thought about or witnessed any sort of

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Changes in either expectations of clients or just the overall pet sitting for you as well, kind of a larger scale of the, of the pet sitting industry. What kind of changes if you've seen any of those over time or expectations? I don't think we've seen expectations. A couple things like from owners whatnot.

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I've noticed one is we predominantly use trusted house sitters when it comes to finding brand new opportunities online. And I've noticed that there seem to be fewer sets posted there. There was a time that we signed up with rover.

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We wanted to explore monetizing it and it turned out that we couldn't use it because we're moving all over the place and trusted house and there's lets us look ahead and months ahead and reach out on our own rover for us. We had to pick an address, and then we can only be contacted we could never reach out

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That did not work for us to be able to move from place to place. Yeah, yeah, I was kind of curious as how you came to trusted house sitters. But that explains a lot if you're trying to live this. No home based life, you know, rover and other location based sitting apps and services is just completely out. So that makes total sense. Yeah, we need to be able to be proactive. Yeah. And and their international, we've actually been approached by people in Croatia, from the United Kingdom from visa,

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you know, and the one thing is that I need to be 100% remote, and currently, I'm not. But the goal is to get there, and then we can totally be internationally remote and global. And the other thing I've noticed is there do seem to be more, not 14 places, but like dog hotels. There's a bit more of that. Now, that didn't seem to be there two years ago. I think people have the opportunity to you know, put their

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I'm in a in a nicer place than what's typically thought it was boring. Oh, kind of like a boutique

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resort kind of thing that as opposed to just a straight up candle. Exactly. Yeah. There's quite a few. I think they're calling lag hotels here in the Bay Area. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Where's the first place? You want to go overseas to house it for with a dog? Oh, I'm

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Scotland. Oh, yeah. I'm open to shoot this well.

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Since now, there have been some farms here. They're further away. One of the one of our limitations is we need to stay within an hour, you know, mute radius to to downtown San Francisco. So I mean, we don't just go all over the Bay Area it needs. You know, we're constantly managing, you know, is this going to work out is this close to a way we can treat we don't have a car.

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So we go, we've learned

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A lot about the buses, the train system, and other ways of getting around. And I would say 90% of the people that we sit for that are outside of the city are are very generous and just say here, just use our car.

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Yeah, yeah, that's, I'm, we've had a few clients do that for us of, you know, we pull up and we've got a little tiny car and they go, Well, I've got three dogs, just go ahead. And if you need to do anything you're taking for a walk, here's the van, or here's the truck. And it's always just, again, that huge wave of, well, that's a lot of responsibility. And well, thank you, you know, that's great. Yeah, that's, that's big. Yeah. And with the car, you know, it's, you know, again, it's like, how do we honor that? And so we end up you know, making sure that the car is full of gas, its back end and we wanted to do what we can to be like, Okay, that was a good decision that we let them use. Exactly. Yeah, because again, it's it's not

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And a lot of sense, it is all about the pet. But in the larger sense it's it's not all about the pet. It's everything else especially when you are housesitting, you're, you're you're sitting there valuables, their their place of residence in everything that goes goes into that. So, yeah, it's important, like people, people will appreciate things. But it's important we found it's important to find a way to let them know, to let them know some of what we've done for them. So one of these we do is will, will will WhatsApp with them and almost daily reading us in one picture, little comment. So there's a bit of a running narrative.

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And we'll do a custom thank you card with their pet on it further, or when we leave and we'll we'll make a little

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checkbox Alyssa to this check boxes of the things we've done for them just so that there's there's a sense that they know that they know things are taking care of not just hope that things were taking care of. So I love

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That I really love that idea. Because Yeah, there are those times where you put a lot of effort into that. And it's not necessarily an idea of wanting to get recognition back from that, but it's wanting to let them know, this is the kind of service that you get with us. And this is what you can can expect and really trying to add the value to each set. That's not just watching the pet. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. And that's why we end up on people's be down. Yeah.

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Yeah, I know, a few times we had, you know, picking up poop in the backyard is is typically a very big thing. And we had a few clients that I think in between the times they booked with us they just never cleaned up the poop in the backyard.

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And there were there's a for a while there, my wife and I were like, do they only book us whenever they need the poop picked up because that's, you know, that's a big thing for us making sure it's spotless in the backyard and that there's nothing left and

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Yeah, there's Yeah, there's

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always always those fun things. Yeah. So, you know, is there any other kind of advice to people either just starting out, or maybe someone who's been in it for a while have something they may not have thought of, you know, given your background and all the great experiences you guys have had that, you know, you'd like to share anything else that comes to mind? Yeah, there's there's two things that I'm happy we did at the beginning and proved over time, our profile, you know, we have we have a website right now it connects to our trusted house sitters profile. And what we did, we made a video so people could get a quick sense of who we are and our personalities. And, you know, I have a bit of a marketing and holistic business background. So I wanted to put up front hey, here's what you can count on us for. Here's a little bit of our story. So we were up front with not just like we want to sit for you, but here's who we are. Here's what you can watch.

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You can know about us. And we repeated that idea in our in our notes that we send them when we're applying if we're meeting someone for the first time, and we're up front with like, right away, your animals will be really taken care of, because this, this and this, and we make it personal. And we look at their, at their information, their details, we customize that letter, but it's a bit of a template. And that way, they already, for the most part, have made a decision by the time we've met. And I found that that really helps us stand out. People really like it. It's a bit of a long letter, but boy that stands out from anyone who's just saying, We're available and would love to sit for your dog or cat. So I'm interested to know how you both kind of see your independent backgrounds and experiences, how those have helped in the pet setting and how you've seen kind of your individual strengths come together to work as that team all one for

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Sure is, Beth always reads and checks and improves anything i right. So, all right, something to them, not not like a daily text but more of an email, like when we're exchanging at the beginning and bathroom, you know, add this thoughtfulness and practical nurse minds, like, here's the principle, you know,

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together, we really round out some edges that make everything really presentable and seem, you know, make the perceived value match what we believe value is. So that's one thing communications is one way things have really worked out. A second one is the, you know, I really enjoyed getting our stuff moved from one place to another getting, you know, having a sense of logistics and you know, hey, hey, we're, I'm helping taking care of us in this unique way. Right? So I think finding finding joy in all the

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pieces is really important. Yeah, I think I think we've gotten really good at Okay, so now that we've met these people, what, what would make the best difference for them? And we actually talked about that, like, what can we do to make this a five star for them. But also notice, oftentimes, the animal will prefer one of us and it's always different. So that by itself is just a fascinating journey. But will will then leverage that the the Dogger with right now, play next really starts playing when Beth comes back, and doesn't like run to me with the ball. Other animals. Well, like, just jump all over me. And, you know, forget the best there. Right? Yeah, I totally relate to that. 100% with my wife and I are sitting together. It's, it's I'm so thankful that there was someone else there because I don't know what I would do. In that case. If the dogs not responding or it's, you know, being aggressive. It's like, I'm so thankful that there's someone over here, the dog

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actually likes so that we can

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sit because I don't know, where else would that would that would go and how that would take place.

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Yeah, and and, you know, I've noticed with with us, you know, I kind of relate it back to putting together puzzles, my wife loves puzzles, and she can sit there and with 1000 piece puzzle in front of her, she, she puts each individual piece together and can just match them like that. And then I can't do that I don't have the attention span for that kind of thing. So she's the planner, she's the, you know, getting everything, all the ducks lined in a row and scheduling days and that kind of stuff. And then when it comes to the bigger picture, caring for you know, seeing everything in context, that's why a lot of times where I see I can come in and really help out in those cases. And then it's good to hear that I'm not the only one who has my writing checked by my wife because

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if half the if half the things I sent out, you know, weren't checked. It's it's just abysmal most time so there's always

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is a two stage review process for that?

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, is there is there anything else you guys would like to bring up or wanted to talk about at this time? You know, I, this has been really helpful for me. I know, I know, I'm taking a lot of notes here and going to have a lot of good stuff moving forward from you guys. It's been really helpful. Well, for me, the way I see things and what I do for for work is sort of personal coaching and branding sort of inner work, really getting people to have big ideas clear on what, you know who they are, what they really want, I think, approach I've always approached this process as

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as an opportunity to grow and to bring two of our standards, our values to the table. And so, we said for you for a while, like our lifestyle is champagne and Pina

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We're going to enjoy and appreciate the the luxury and the goodness of whatever is there and do our best to improve things and, and leave things better than we take it. And we, I was sharing with someone, you know that that champagne and peanut butter ideas like okay, but this is too long for a website. And the person said, Well, how about bubbles and nuts? It's like, yeah, that's why we got bubbles and nuts. And the reason I'm bringing this up is I think like if every pet sitter sort of took a stand for what they believe in, in terms of like the goodness that they are bringing to the table and named it in a fun way, like whether it's the business name, or just something that they know for themselves, I think the hope it just really enriches it. It makes the hard times and the Kleenex much more easy to say, Hey, this is just the peanut butter moment.

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No more bad days. It's just all part of the growth.

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So grand peanut butter day.

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Owners benefit because they feel that they feel more trust there's it's just it works it's such a win win for everybody. Yeah, yeah. No I i bubbles nuts that's

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I love that I love that well I really appreciate you guys taking your time this evening you know I again that's it I learned so much and have a lot of thinking and chewing on stuff to take away from this so I really do appreciate you guys taking the time out of your day and out of your your busy schedule to do this. Well thank you it's really nice to connect especially around their pet sitters. I mean because honestly, it's I mean, a network of pet sitters are allies it's so great to just share experiences and and you know say hey you know I can't do this it can you do this sitter, it's it's, you know, a community of much needed people. right because a lot of times you can feel really isolated

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Those days or if you've got a problem dog or, you know, a problem client, you know, the owners really giving you something. It's it's nice to have some other people to reach out to and to troubleshoot those things too as well. So you don't feel so alone in those tough times. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And now there's a place to confess our pets and passions. Yeah.

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Yes.

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Yeah, I'm, there are times right. The people around me I'm sure sick and tired of all the stories that I tell it's like, this is what I do. I don't have anything else to talk about other than dogs and cats. So it's kind of nice to to nerd out on that with other people to

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thank you. Thank you for talking with us. Well, you creating this. Yeah, you're very welcome. We got

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excited about where this is going to go. And, you know, all the people that can it can help too, because yeah, like you said, the community is really important with this. I hope you guys have really enjoyed that discussion with Beth and Alex.

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They're pretty amazing. Follow them on social media, check out their website, bubbles and nuts.com and definitely reach out to them. They're a great resource. You can follow Petra confessional at Fetzer confessional calm. We're on Facebook and Instagram at Fetzer confessional, Twitter PS confessional. Send Feedback to feedback at pet server confessional calm and definitely subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

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