366: Best Pet Sitting and Dog Walking Tips from Listeners
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What’s your best pet sitting or dog walking tip? We asked, and you answered! Everything from how to deal with nervous cats, to when should you get a poop bag ready, you sent in your best tips. On today’s episode, we share the results and share some tips of our own. Thank you to all who submitted feedback!
Main topics
Cats
Being prepared
Dog walks
Customer service
Setting boundaries
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SUMMARY KEYWORDS
clients, dog, pet, tip, leash, visit, walk, greet, cat, treats, home, business, life, walking, number, photo, essentials, prepared, gut, hand
SPEAKERS
Meghan, Collin
Meghan 00:01
Hello welcome to pet sitter confessional an open and honest discussion about life as a pet sitter.
Collin 00:06
Thank you to our sponsor today, pet sitters associates and our wonderful patreon supporters
Meghan 00:11
like Mary Annabelle brandy Lizzie Jan Katherine Julie Barbie potty wagon, Erica and Anna, thank you very much for your financial contribution to the show. Thank you for finding value in what we do. We really appreciate it. If you would like to learn more about what that means. And to be a Patreon member, you can go to petsitter confessional.com/support. A few weeks ago, we did a book giveaway with art and more. And we wanted you guys to submit your best dog walking and pet sitting tips to be entered into the drawing. We had a ton of responses. And so today we wanted to share a lot of those.
Collin 00:49
Well all of them basically this is a listener feedback episode full of amazing tips. So break out your pen and paper.
Meghan 00:56
The first category is all about cats, Sara Ripley said hi, I'm entering the giveaway with this tip give illusive cats their space, talk out loud in a friendly voice and use their name. But let them decide when they want to come out to meet you. So for example, hi fluffy, I came to see you let's get you some dinner. She said I always do this while I go about my tasks and have had several scary cats come sit on my lap while their owners swore they probably won't come out. And I think we've had this to have, the more that you talk to a cat, they are more likely to be friendly.
Collin 01:28
I like being very vocal during my visits anyway. And so just getting them used to your voice talking in a soothing manner directing them. That way they're never surprised about where you are in the house. They can always keep an ear literally out free where you are and it just helps build that rapport and build that trust with them. Blakely wrote in and said this is my number one pet saving tip for cats. I always bring treats catnip and a laser pen when I do cat visits. When it's my first time alone with them. I put treats next to me and read a book and ignore them until they come up to me. I slowly build the relationship and I've had success with anxious and shy cats. I've been known to be the cat whisperer because I get on the floor with them and let them approach me first. My secret weapon is the laser pin catnip and a brush.
Meghan 02:12
It is true that a lot of times cats just need time and space. Yes you can entice them with treats and a laser pen but ultimately sometimes they just need time. Michelle from lean on me petsitting said best dog walking your pet sitting tip well for her dog walking tip SHE SAID DON'T FORGET poop bags and know the dog's triggers if any. So you are prepared. And then for cat or pet sitting she said let's have had come to you if they are scared always keep an eye out for their body language when pet sitting. And that is super important. Body language is key. So you know exactly what the pet is feeling thinking and how you need to respond to them.
Collin 02:47
But that takes being observant and giving them that space and wondering well okay, are they neutral? Are they more aggressive? Are they fearful right now? Are they playful? And really, I think what you keyed in there making is okay, now that I know their body language. The next thing for me is what do I do about that? Do I need to step back? Can I step in? Can I get something else and change the situation for them.
Meghan 03:06
The second category is all about being prepared. Brittany Coles said my number one tip for dog walking is to always be prepared. Anything could happen at any given time. And the last thing you want to be as surprised whether it involves the weather, the safety and the health of the pad or the environment. Always be prepared and vigilant always have a fanny pack of some sort to carry essentials.
Collin 03:27
Keith also had something along the similar lines where He said Be prepared is his number one tip. Pets are as varied as people shape, size, personality have a variety of tools available to be able to properly and comfortably handle all those personalities Be it a long slip, lead, double headed leash, a collar or even just spare collars. God forbid one breaks because of a puller.
Meghan 03:48
Well I think that's why sometimes our cars get so messy, because we we have all of this equipment and backup equipment and things that we you know used at one time that we may need again in the future.
Collin 03:59
Now whether that's extra leashes or harnesses or maybe that's an extra little scoop for a cat or an extra baggie for something you really never know what you need until you are in that situation when you need it. So having things on hand in your car is a great thing or a backpack. If you're walking everywhere. Having a few essentials on hand will really be a great way to help make sure that you are prepared.
Meghan 04:20
Another pet sitting tip is by Alicia from pet care by leash, wrote in and said my number one pet stain tip is to always have a list of several emergency contacts for the pets you are watching. This could be a family member, neighbor or trusted friend that can help you out in the event of an emergency or any issue that comes up while the owners are away. It is better to have multiple contacts in case one or more can't be reached or are not able to help. It may seem like common sense but it can save a lot of time and a true emergency and you'll thank yourself for having backups.
Collin 04:48
I will say when they give you that emergency contact, triple check that it is a local person that is not traveling with them. I cannot tell you the number of times as spouse will give their spouse's contact information or their child's information, who's also traveling with them. And so clarifying that at the meet and greet over the phone to get that and make sure that this person is not traveling and is also local.
Meghan 05:13
Well, and a lot of times for us, though, they would actually have put themselves because like, of course, I'm the emergency contact. Of course, you're going to call me if something goes wrong. And we had to clarify on our meet and greet questionnaire of not yourself, I had to put in parentheses emergency emergency local contact, and parentheses, not yourself. Nancy wrote in and said, my personal tip, as it snows heavy outside is check the weather and dress for the job that includes your canine clients. And I think that's important because a lot of times we think about ourselves, you know, if it's snowing, obviously, we're gonna put a coat on. But it's also the pet as well. Do they need little booties? Do they need a coat? How can we best help them when the weather is not good. And it's
Collin 05:52
not just for their comfort, too. It's also for the client's home. So we've been going through a spat of intense rain events in our local area. And having a dog with a raincoat really makes clean up after the fact a lot easier. So they're not bringing in a lot of wet a lot of water, a lot of mud back into the client's home when you're done with the walk. So there's a lot of benefits that come from them.
Meghan 06:12
Melissa Phillips said, pay attention to every little detail. And that's a simple tip. But it's super important because especially with pet setting visits, you have a lot more to care for than just the pet it's the home too.
Collin 06:23
And similarly, Jewel shared my number one tip is always be looking out for changes in the dog or cat's behavior and energy level, you may be able to find out about a potential sickness until the owner and save them a lot of trouble and possibly a life of their pet and energy level is huge. Whether they are normally really playful and you come in and they are really dragging and they're barely able to get excited. Or maybe they're pretty low energy LA Times and you come in and they're really super amped up and hyped up. It's our job to figure out why. And maybe all we can do is just clue the client into a DAX is usually really excited when I come in today. And he was bare lifting his head up whenever I came in, I think you should get them taken to the vet. Or maybe that's something that you could offer to do if you have that time.
Meghan 07:07
Gracie from the positive petsitter said, thanks for doing this. I'm a fan of art and more love the work she did with the cat behavior fetch fine training. My number one pet setting tip is always always take a moment or two to take a deep breath and center focus relax before walking into any home or pet sitting situation keep each pet set fresh and mindful. Kelsey had a similar thought of my number one dog walking tip is to remain calm and confident I take a few deep breaths before I start each walk. So I can lead my dogs by example with my own calm energy. That is crucial because dogs and pets in general they feed off of human interaction human energy and emotions. And so we need to be as calm and collected as possible. So we're not going into a pet or a dog walk super frantic super hyped up because they're going to notice that
Collin 07:58
and not just that with we come in amped up thinking distracted about the red light that we hit or the coffee that we spilled or how late we're running, we are going to miss things we're going to miss the little details, we're going to forget to latch the back door we're going to forget to scoop out the litter an extra bit that we need to do so between missing details and then throwing off the energy of the entire visit, then you end up it is a compounding from visit after visit after visit because they don't seem to go right. So taking just two minutes to calm yourself down. 10 breaths in 10 breaths out was going to really help make sure that you are focused and intentionally looking at this visit and being present at that time.
Meghan 08:37
Rochelle said treat every visit as if it's the first or last. By treating it as if it's a first you don't miss cues that the dog is having an off day like you just mentioned, Colin and may not react as friendly as usual. Maybe it's the thunder or the garbage truck. And you don't skip steps because you're in a habit. It's very easy to go on autopilot some days. But treating every visit like it's the last before the owner comes home ensures if they do come home early that they're not met with things out of order, and you being embarrassed for how they found the place.
Collin 09:07
I really liked this tip because it brings together a lot of different facets of you cannot become have have visits become a habit, especially if their daily dog walks or if there's somebody who travels for a long time. And it's the 17th That's the 25th visit of the trip and you are just on Route memory right now. And you're not even really you're on autopilot. That's a pretty dangerous place to be. It's it's low stakes, because you are used to all of the movements that you have to be but you're not mentally present in the moment and you are going to miss things. And then the treat every visit like it's your last is going to help make sure that it's always done and you always need to be prepared for things to come in. I know we usually start preparing like the third to last visit, just making sure everything's taken care of and really dialed in. But again, you never know when somebody may return home.
Meghan 09:57
We also got a few tips about software. So Shannon Rigby said, my number one tip would be to use software like time to pet in order to organizes so much for the business owner and presents a professional image to the client, I waited far too long to finally sign up. And when I did, it completely changed the trajectory of my business. Rosie agrees. She said, I love the podcast and have learned so much from you guys. My number one tip is to have petsitting software, even if you have a small operation or solo petsitting software is a must. Thanks for all you do.
Collin 10:26
Absolutely small, big scale solo, everything in between. Software is a great way to make sure that you never miss visits. And I know we have clients who text us and it absolutely terrifies me anymore when they text us something or a phone call and going, something is going to fall through the cracks if I don't absolutely take care of this. And then that way, when something does happen, you are not to blame whenever the client Miss booked themselves in the visit. They didn't book as many or they didn't book earlier, they didn't go long enough. It's not on you at that point. And you can always ask clarifying questions. But it's a great way to make sure that you don't have to worry about missing something because it's on the clients to take care of it.
Meghan 11:04
Yvonne Rosenberger said keep the key and your phone on your body she put that in capital letters on your body. If left on the table, you will be locked out and have no phone.
Collin 11:15
And being locked out is probably one of the scariest things that we can have. It happened to us especially if you don't have your phone on you, too.
Meghan 11:22
And it's 10 o'clock at night and you don't want to go knock on neighbors doors, so you can use their phone.
Collin 11:26
But that may be what you have to do in that situation. So having a lanyard on your on your around your neck or having a big key chain that you have clipped to your belt or clipped to your waistband, whatever that is making sure that you have these essentials on you and doing a triple check before you go outside even into the backyard. Making sure that you have these essentials on you will help make sure that you don't get locked out.
Meghan 11:47
We got a ton of tips about dog walks. Olivia Hansen said here's my number one dog walking tip. I always carry two extra rolls of poo bags. After using my last poop bag on a walk and a dog decided to poop right in front of someone's house and I didn't have a bag. She didn't have a bag. I knew immediately I needed to carry extra bags. And Chipman had another poop bag tip. She said always have a wrinkled up poop bag in your pocket before starting the walk. So you're ready to pick up and go.
Collin 12:14
I know whenever I train our staff. This is one of the very first things that I demonstrate to them. Before we go on a walk for the very first visit. I always say here's a pro tip, take it rip it out and crinkle it up so that you're not having to set because it could be raining, it could be windy, it could be freezing and you're out there trying to open up this little plastic tiny bag and the dog is ready to go and you're wasting your time and you get really frustrated and you end up just picking up the poop from the side of the bag instead of actually in the bag. Avoid all of that before you go outside wrinkled it up putting your in your pocket it will save you so much time and then having not just having one poop bag having multiples on you always have backups. There's no reason not to with coats and pockets. So that's how we ended up with them multiplying throughout all of our lives and being every corner of our house.
Meghan 12:57
Brittany's dog walking tip is to always make sure you have a good grip on the leash, make sure your hand is through the loop and you have a hand along the shaft for control as well as safety. So we got lots of leash feedback tips and Donna said I have a long dog leash around my waist so I have my hands free. Lisa said I always keep a variety of types and sizes of leashes and collars in my vehicle. The leashes and collars my clients use are not always the best type or fit for their particular dog. So I carry my favorites for temperaments for sizes length, comfort, comfort, etc. And after sending my clients pictures and videos, they invariably end up asking me about them and why I use them. That gives me an opportunity to educate them as to the correct leashes and collars for their dog. It has often been a game changer for my clients when it comes to walking their own dogs
Collin 13:46
two points of contact on the leash at all times. Regardless of whatever you're doing, we'll make sure that there's no possibility of that dogs slipping out of your hand. The last thing you want to be doing is having that leash dangling with your fingers. And I know many of us trained dogs to loose leash walk next to us and they're not constantly pulling. But at the end of the day, it's our responsibility to make sure that that dog does not get away. So having the loop around the wrist taking that same hand clamping it on the on the leash, and then going down the shaft of that leash and clamping it with your other hand. Two points of contact actually that's three around your wrist and then one in both hands. That way if you have to take a hand off to take a photo, send a text update, you can go poop pick up poop is the big one here. And then making sure that the gear that you're using is appropriate for the dog that you are walking Many clients have no idea what it does and what it means to have a well fitted harness or a good fitting collar. So sometimes you have to supplement your own on top of that and then additionally educate them so that they can be living a good life with their pet in a safe and secure way. And then similar to these leash tips. Jane toric has a tip about gear. She says I love your interview with the amazing Ardmore. I know we did too. And here's her tip about dog walking, invest in good gear, having fun comfortable shoes, updating them when they get worn will make walking so much more comfortable. I found that my feet and knees would hurt if my shoes didn't offer enough support or cushion. I pay a little extra for good shoes and a good art support insole plus my car trunk is filled with lots of gear for whatever weather may impact my day. Extra hat gloves, coats polar fleece or sweaters of different warm levels for temperature changes, a good raincoat, hat pants, plus waterproof Boots for wet weather, and extra change of clothes and shoes for whatever may happen. Investing in good gear that is going to not just last for a couple of days while you're out walking and taking care of pets. But that will last for years and years to come will not only save you money, but also make sure that you are more comfortable while you're out doing these visits.
Meghan 15:43
Lori said that her number one tip for dog walking is to be prepared for anything we use tiny horse waist and crossbody leashes in case we fall. So we don't accidentally drop a leash. And also so we can be hands free in case of an off leash dog to take photos also it's good and to pick up after the dogs I carry around a mini first aid kit in my waist pack extra boot bags, a slip lead and plenty of dog treats. We're about to interview Taylor lead all again with from tiny horse and a few weeks and she is just her products are just amazing. We love them.
Collin 16:13
Again, high quality products. Yes. Do they cost a little bit more than the stuff that you can get from the big box retail stores? Yes, they do. Are they going to last for multiple years to come and be consistent and reliable every time they use them? Also, yes. And so you have to understand if this is a profession, investing in good years and good tools will really help you.
Meghan 16:32
Martha Maksym said I love doing enrichment activities on the walks even a sniff sorry, I will sometimes take a toilet paper roll, put treats in it and have a dog find it under a tree. She'll also place treats on a big rock or a tree and have the dog wait when break for the treats.
Collin 16:49
This is a great way to add something extra to for the walk many times you might not have a good place to walk the dog for 30 minutes or an hour long straight and you feel kind of silly walking in the same small circle over and over and over and over again. Or it's
Meghan 17:03
bad weather and you can't go outside because it's negative four degrees.
Collin 17:07
Or maybe the dog is not feeling it that day and isn't wanting to feel active or maybe the dog is on different medication or it's an older dog or for whatever reason, you can take that walk and add a little activity like this in the middle of it to break it up give it might not make it so monotonous. Or maybe this is done during the break period where you're kind of resting and you're giving them a little bit of a water break. Adding a little a little activity like this really takes out that walk and bumps it up several notches.
Meghan 17:34
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Collin 18:30
definitely get that photo release form signed by your client before you start posting them over social media. Many clients might not be comfortable with that. And they ask additional questions about how you use that photo, when you will use that photo, have that part of the contract and onboarding process so that they know what to expect. And then take time to really take those photos, or really invest effort into learning how to operate your cell phone optimally in all sorts of conditions. And I know we've done several episodes on taking good high quality photos with your camera. And so that really helps set you apart and make sure that when their clients can share that through social media, it's worthwhile to them and it will be a cherished memory of theirs for years to come well, and if they love the photo enough to share it out.
Meghan 19:16
They're going to elevate your business without you having to really do a lot of work, right. Lisa said, my best pet sitting and dog walking tip is to have great communication with your client, the pet owner to learn about the pets and do a meet and greet ahead of time to meet the pet. So you have a relationship established from the beginning. This really is a relationship business and so that meet and greet is crucial to get to know them for them to get to know you and make sure that it's going to be a fit for both parties. Well, we're
Collin 19:42
talking about communication leading up to that meet and greet but the communication must continue at a high level for the duration of that relationship. The only way to deepen and grow trust in a relationship is to maintain high levels of communication and back and forth. So always remembering it's our job to communicate to the Client,
Meghan 20:00
Sophia also thinks communication is super important. She said, My best pet sitting tip is to communicate to pet parents how hard we work to keep their pets safe, happy and comfortable. The pets can't report back. So the only way pet parents know exactly how detail oriented and passionate we are, is if we communicate that to them and our pet care reports, this has been a significant part of my value add as a pet care professional, I work hard for my clients. And it's important that they understand what excellent pet care looks like, and that they know they're receiving it from me
Collin 20:29
this? Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. The clients are going to tell you what they want done in their home. And then you have to tell them what you did in their home. Even though as though it's going to be very simple. Sometimes you may not feel like oh, do I really need to take that photo of the clean letterbox? Do I really need to take the photo of the food that I added? The answer is yes. And the acid is always yes, you have to both show that you have to both tell them and then show the clients what you're doing. Because even though they have cameras and they can see everything, it means something completely different when you are the one sharing and reporting back to them other than them kind of having a bird's eye view of you wandering around their home, it's a completely different kind of interaction.
Meghan 21:12
Well, and if they wanted three mils of medication too fluffy and their brown package brought in from the porch, then you need to say okay, fluffy was given three mils of this medication and the brown Pat, here's the picture of the brown package out from the inside and on the porch. Well, that's
Collin 21:29
a change that we've made recently, as far as reporting medications we used to say meds given at the pm visit. But we've changed that to report specifically what what medications were given and the amounts that they were given. Because sometimes clients were confused about what was going on. And it was just a great way to give them reassurance that we had everything under
Meghan 21:48
control. Lynn had a few tips, she said always have an extra leash in the car. Always make sure the collar or harness is not loose before walking your dog always dressed for the weather. But probably the number one pet sunny tip would be honestly is the best policy. And that is certainly true. Because like you mentioned, clients have cameras everywhere inside outside everywhere in between. And so if you don't do something or you do do something they're going to know about it. The last group of responses were all about setting boundaries. Jen said my number one tip for pet sitters is knowing it's okay not to accept every client and that you should schedule a vacation or downtime every month to give you a day at home to do errands, sleep chores or nothing at all. If you want
22:32
that time really helps you not only take a step back from your business and readjust and reset, but also gives you a dedicated time to get caught back up on everything else going on in your life. When we're running sunup to sundown seven days a week, doing things like getting an oil change, getting a haircut, going grocery shopping, all of those basic life necessities all of a sudden become really hard to do. So scheduling that time ahead of time and then sticking to it will make sure those other life things don't fall through the cracks.
Meghan 23:01
Lauren said Have a clear and concise contract. So pet owners and yourself are on the same page about care and the cost and other important factors in petsitting. This is crucial, we did not have a contract 11 years ago when we started this and I'm kicking myself because it really does protect your business. And it we do have to explain to clients sometimes of like this is not locking you into anything. This is simply you know a terms of service. This is how we operate. And we want you to know this information before the meet and greet. I mean, basically so we're not wasting anybody's time.
23:35
And you can decide how you want to present this information we have definitely fallen back to fall into it's a term of service because it's our our terms of service does not have the dates does not have payment information doesn't have that kind of specific for that client and their booking, the booking is handled separately. The terms of service is just how we operate. And we want our clients to sign that before we even show up. It gives them time to review everything and make sure they're okay with things like our cancellation policy. Because if they're not, we are not a good fit. And we need to communicate that upfront and be honest about that so that they can make an informed decision about working with us or not.
Meghan 24:15
Morgan Wilson wrote in and said she's an avid listener of the podcast, I run a babysitting and pet sitting business called the cuddly cactus located in Southwest Louisiana. I love that name. My number one tip is to not let the client walk over you so many times I've wanted to make clients happy that I've given in to their every request. I noticed every time I've sat for those clients, I was dreading the job and ready for them to return. I now only take up clients that are truly thankful for what I do and respect me as a person. This is a wonderful tip because in this industry, it can be so easy to say yes to every single person, every single request. No matter if it's draining on you or you enjoy it. It's just come one come all basically but ultimately that is going to lead to burnout. And so knowing yourself, and what you want to take on what you don't want to take on is very important. Yeah, those
Collin 25:07
clients that just take advantage of you because they think they can walk over you. And then you get that request that comes through your software, they call you, and you just go, Oh, not again, I don't you start dreading it. And what this does is this, this little micro fatigues, these micro stressors that come into your life of now, you're not just, you know, maybe you enjoy the dog. But the anxiety that this fills you with of working with this client, again, is something that just consumes you and hangs over you the entire visit. So you can't be present and actually enjoy the work that you love to do
Meghan 25:38
well, and because of all the pandemic puppies, the dog moms a dog dads have kind of become helicopter parents, and maybe they're wanting more updates a day than you can provide or want to provide. Or they're just having little things here and there of Oh, can you do this? Can you do this and you just don't want to write it can be very easy to fall into that. But knowing your boundaries and say, No, I'm not doing that. And then Sandy says trust your gut. I do mainly dog care, but have a few kitty clients as well. I've been in business since 2013. I worked as an IC for another pet sitting company for seven years before that. My number one tip for pet sitting is listen to your gut on the meet and greet and ask questions if even if they aren't comfortable. If your gut tells you, this isn't a good fit or something feels seems off. Listen, it's okay to turn down to sit. So she has two examples here. The first one is I interviewed for an overnight for a pocket bully and the wife was obviously afraid of the dog. She stood as far away from the dog as she could when I met them, and the dog kept jumping on me and scratching my legs. On my first visit the dog blocked me in a bedroom showed aggression and I had to use my wits to exit the house safely. I had to contact with the neighbor to take over he was the emergency contact and head care for the dog many times in the past, only time and almost 20 years, I had to walk away from a pet set. The second she said most recent was an owner capture their small dog on a leash during the entire meet and greet. The reason I found out after I started to sit was that the dog barks continuously and tries to bite us every time our back is turned or when we walked by him. I could have avoided both scenarios by asking a few more questions. Why are you afraid of this dog? And why are you keeping your dog on a leash inside the house.
27:16
One of the earlier tips was to pay attention to every detail. And same thing with the meet and greet if you see the client acting a certain way, moving a certain way repeating the same words over and over again. Ask about it collect you know write that information down and then be upfront because that's important information for you to know and not shy away from that, like you feel like you're going to hurt their feelings. Or it may be awkward to ask, Hey, why is this gate over here? Or hey, I see a lot of scratch marks on the back door. Are those recent? How did those get there? I actually just asked a client about the scratch marks on a door at a very recent Meet and Greet of going. Because they hadn't mentioned it at all. They were it was like they didn't exist in the home. And so towards the end, I said, I noticed that there are some scratch marks on the door over here. Could you please tell me about those. And they said oh, that was when they were they were a puppy. And I just have never gotten around to repairing them. That's much better to find out, then the dog actually has a massive separation anxiety that they're trying to hide from you.
Meghan 28:16
Well, and she also mentioned trusting your gut, which is huge. So in your personal life, you know, where am I going to college? Where and what spouse am I going to marry? What food am I going to eat today? trusting your gut, both literally and figuratively. But trusting your gut in business is very helpful. Because sometimes we come away from a meet and greet or we come away from a potential hire. And we go oh, I don't know, I kind of feel a little icky about this. And so going with your gut on this. I mean, you don't need every single client out there. And you don't want to be dreading these visits when they come up, or you don't want to be dreading that hire that you just hired, because you were a little uneasy, but you were coming from a place of needing to hire because you're so busy.
Collin 29:00
And the only thing that you need to say for either the hire or for the potential client that you're turning down is after further review of your information, we are not a good fit. That's it. And that's the only justification that you need to give and you can move on and continue running your business.
Meghan 29:16
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